helping kwai fatt at tian hou gong

Last nite went to an event which is organised by China Press and sponsored by ACCA.
and assisted by the audit firm Monteiro & Heng
the speaker for the event is Dr. Chong Kwai Fatt (锺贵发).
The main purpose for this charity work is to assist those who are in the salary group (SG) to fill up their Form BE, because they are not familiar with the new form BE (especially for those chinese educated).

Actually, kwai fatt ask me to find 50-30 people for him to assist him in this event geh.. but i also think it is a mission impossible where it is quite difficult and seems to be a mission impossible.
initially i wanted to annouce to the course, but looking at they are busy with their coursework and sometimes i feel they are kind of self centered sometimes unreasonable and uncosiderate, i decided not to ask and jus ask among friends lo.

so i ask uei gin who is my classmate to fetch me to tian hou gong, since it was on his way back to his house which is near OUG. (erm i think i'm a very bad person) but he actually agreed to join me for the event.

then i also ask those kwai fatt student which are from the same class with me last sitting lo. yan er have class until 5 cannot go and then ching is at sabah and then left wei and she was free to help feel so happy about it (actually i din tell uei gin that i never see wei before ar ;))

then i knoe her by seeing who is the person calling me at the bus stop.. haha.. luckily she knoe my face. wei is really a very nice person since she is willing to help, cos it is a voluntary work which means we sit there help people without and cost.

We picked up wei at almost 4.40pm and straight go to tian hou gong d...
then there was a lot of car there already.
and the car parking fees is sponsored by AccA. (that's wat written on the front of the entrance before the hall)
However i'm not sure whether that during normal day, parking at tian hou gong requires any parking fees or not.

before i reach there i told kwai fatt that there is only 3 ppl including me that i can bring to help him. he say never mind and as us to come early.
when we reach there i was wondering how we are going to find kwai fatt cos the hall might be very very big ma.
then wei wei ask me whether the person in the white cot and blue shirt is kwai fatt. but i think i din wear my glasses and din knoe whether is him or not.
then kwai fatt saw us and there is already a group of people standing in front of the enterence getting ready to take photo.He then ask to join them and come faster to take photo together. [i think the photo shall be place in the china press gua.. wah.. can see my face on the news paper again ;)]

After that, we go into the hall and kwai fatt say:
'my student come and take one envelope which have an AccA t-shirt sponsor by ACCA and change into AccA T shirt.'
i passed his the acca 3.3 kit that he ask me to order for him and he say so long already only got one book nia u eat my book liao ar? i say have not arrive yet ma.. where got eat your book wor.
then we 'guai guai' went to the toilet to changed to the Acca t-shirt lo.. mine is a green one and wei wei and uei gin one's are orange one [erm.. mc orage and mc appple?(just suddenly remind me of mc orange an AccA tuition centre and also mc apple the example used by uncle daniel ho during his class)]
the envelope given by acca is really like a goody bag.
A part from the AccA t shirt there are also the following item:-
  • AccA Key Chain
  • AccA pen
  • 2 AccA small note book
  • ACCA calendar [i got a stack of it like those card used for playing game]
  • A magazine pubished by AccA entitle personal finance managing money responsibly which is a guidebook to better personal finance (this remind me of the personal finance which is one of kwai fatt's favourate topic)


the respond is very very good. i think sure good la, cos it's free geh ma rite ;)
It is very very caring for china press to organise such event to the reader (especially for those who are chinese educated and do not really know how to fill in the form)

during the first and half hour, kwai fatt explain everything about form BE using the sample copy of form BE distributed to those who came for the talk.
He carefully explain each of the item in the form using his very broken chinese lo, and i calculated that he had used about 5 chinese proverb to show that actually his mandrin is not bad actually.
during his one and a half hour talk, he also include jokes that he always talk during his normal class. the only different is that it is translated into chinese and not english.
One of the joke is "nowadays women usually earn more then husband, I also dun why some husband cant let down their “ZHUN YEN” n let wife work and earn money,
for me I'm willing geh... very easy life mah, men stay at home boil soup and play mahjong with friends while waiting for the wife to come back from work.."

then about 6.45 pm, it's time for us to start for filling form for the public.
but we do not have experience in filling up the form and we are backed up by the staff from the audit and tax firm Monteiro & Heng. just try our best to help others to fill up the form.

Actually i used my experience i have learn during the industrial training last year and help them to fill up the form. but the form is actually a bit different from the one which i have fill in last year.

client 1
the first lady which i help her to fill in the form ask me to fill in 3 form.
OMG... 3 form leh.. 2 BE form and one E form.
actually i knoe how to fill in geh la.. but just that to ensure that every item is correct in every field i have to be very very careful lo.
then i was slow and the aunty rush me. then i answer question from wei.. the aunty also rush me.
erm i just hope that i can say that aunty you wan fast and good quality you ask tax firm to fill in your form la... only 100 per BE form saje ma.
eventually she din bring all her necessary document and also she brought her insurance receipt and insurance policy.
but the document which is required to be kept as a proof for claim for insurance deduction is actually insurance premium statement which would be issue to client annually which clearly state the amound contributed under life insurance premium and medical insurance premium.

and when i finished filling up the form i ask the staff from the tax firm to check for me, eventually i think the staff there are no better than me.[haha.. i'm trying to be selfcentered cos of my 4 months industrial training experience of dealing with about 100 clients last year] and they have to refer to their 'guru' of the firm to confirm whether the things are correct or not.

1)they told the aunty the medical bill actually need to show proof whether is parents and son when the declare for the deduction since the bill is under the father's name. actually the document do not need to be submitted, proof need to be shown only when the IRB come and do tax audit lo.. what misleading information they are giving to the client. erm..

2)the staff also dunno how to read the dividend warrant issue by the unit trust whether it is taxable or non taxable, and they also forget about the 110 set off.. walao.. i'm not qualified yet geh.. but they are?..... erm... nothing much to comment about.

client 2
he is the uncle working in one of the brewy.
he just ask me to help him to fill and nothing much ask.
his form was not difficult to fill in and nothing much technical la.
but what kwai fatt ask us to proff whether the company has deducted extra tax and there should be tax refund was not correct. but i do not know what is the actual reason la.

client 3
she is a working lady and also have some business but she only get the form BE so she ask me whether she need to declare her business.
i said that regardless of whether your business is profitable or not you should declare your income. and any loss made could be used to off set the future profit.
and she ask me how to declare about rental income if the income is shared among two person. and i shown her wat have i learn during the industrial training.
ah.. almost forgot to mention she belanja me eat sweet when i told wei i was starving..;)

client 4
this uncle actually bring me his 2003 form b and also 2004 form b to teach him how to fill in.
but the income is for salary group only he is those who do own business.
and make the account himself and do not have any record of his business at all.
actually our supervisor cum guru had teach us how to do account for those people who do not have actuall accounting record.
and he always will say this client do not kena tax, then nothing (no figures) to look at. you prepare a set of accounts just like last year for the client la.
we will always do creative accounting based on the guideline given by our si fu and the limited information given.
then i used almost everything i learn from my industrial training to explain to the uncle and then when it is almost finished i told finished explaining i found at the back the individual have to declare his set of accounts (including P&L and B/S). Cham liao la... this uncle dun have asset, liability nothing to see geh.. i also dunno how to formulate the figure for him. then the person from PWC which assist us when we got any question, just say if dun have dun need write anything lo.
wah... like tat also can ar? then if the person kena tax audit ar... i dunno who he will pin point to lo... aiyo.

client 5
this guy actually do not have a file with irb and just have his ea form and he did not declare his 2003 income yet.
and he was coming here actually hoping to get form BE.
and i kept telling him if you want to get form BE the best way is you go to the nearest income tax department to get your new BE form la...
then the guy was like not paying attention to wat i was talking about.
he was looking here and there. i think this was annoying wor.
i being so pro.. and help for free and starving.....
poor poor t0m@k0

by the time i finished answering 5 client and filling up 5 form BE and one form B and one sample form B, it was almost 9.30 liao.
i really amazed by how time flies when you are not aware about it.
then i went over to help uei gin with his client.
answering question about rpgt and also rental income.

i bring a pack of the zap fan which is provided to us as our dinner for uei gin.
i din take any because it was not clean not vegetarian. then wei wei came back, i told her i cannot eat and i told her i bring my own and she agreed to accompany me to uei gin's car to take and sit down and eat lo.

By the time we finished our dinner it is already 9.45pm kwai fatt still talking non stop liao.. i really wonder why he got so much energy to talk talk talk non stop geh?
By the time we make a move it is already 10 liao kwai fatt still answering question from the floor but we really gotta chao liao.
then we sent fei bin and gang back to kl sentral to catch their own transport and uei gin sent me to my uncle's house where my dad agreed to pick me up.

from overall point of view the event was quite successful.
I think the public are still not educated enough on how to fill in the form B/BE where the role of public tax firm come in to help them to fill up the form by charging a small amount of fees which is quiet a large amount for those low salary bracket.

there are also not many people who really came to help them fill up the form BE for free lo. I think this make kwai fatt feel quite disappointed, and he said nowadays even teacher ask student help , they also not listen geh..
but i think is they are very selfish?? and reluctant to do something without receiving a cost? i dunno la.

it is really a memorable event for me but...
by the end of the day i got a bad news from kwai fatt.
he say the systematic boss do not agreed to open an extra class for us and we have to attend the 400 class liao.. so sad.
kwai fatt also cannot do anything. cos he just an employee for systematic.
cham...
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